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20Jun/070

OpenVistA information system for hospitals and medical care

It is quite common to expect the availability of free and open-source software for common needs, such as an operating system and an office suite. What is the situation when your needs are much more advanced? Such as, when you are looking for an information system for a hospital?
Luckily, there is such a software package for an information system for hospital needs, called OpenVistA. OpenVistA comes from VistA, a public-funded medical system for the United States Department of Veterans Affairs. Due to the source of the funding, the source code of the medical system has been available with a liberal license, and gave birth to OpenVistA.
An interesting issue with OpenVistA is that the backend is written with the MUMPS programming language. This programming language is quite old with syntax dissimilar to modern languages. However, MUMPS has become popular in medical care systems and especially VistA. There are people that criticize the programming language; it is important to understand that a big piece of software working well has much more weight over the language preferences. In addition, the front-end is what the end-user uses, and in our case it is written with modern programming languages.
Screenshot of Mono frontend of OpenVistA
Traditionally, the major front-end of OpenVistA was written in Delphi. Quite recently, a new front-end has been written, in Mono. Thanks to Mono, the front-end is cross-platform and supports i18n (the front-end can be translated in many written languages).
You can try out OpenVistA straight away by downloading the OpenVistA VMWare appliance (image file that contains an installation of an operating system, configured and ready to use). The specific VMWare appliance is based on Xubuntu.
Software for hospitals is quite expensive, and is a lucrative business for software houses. However, when one takes into account that in many countries hospitals are public-funded, it is easy to understand how important it is to use free and open-source software in this case. Sadly, in many cases, hospitals make ad-hoc agreements for such software, resulting to inefficient use of public funds.

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27Feb/070

Open Font License (OFL) 1.1 Released

Dear OFL friends and reviewers,

We're pleased to finally announce the completion of the SIL Open Font
License version 1.1. This free and open license has been updated to improve
clarity, remove potential ambiguities, and make it easier to use for both
authors and users.

Visit the OFL web site for more information:

http://scripts.sil.org/ofl

A detailed list of changes can be found on the review page:

http://scripts.sil.org/ofl_review

The only notable change in usage is that authors must now explicitly list
any names that should be Reserved Font Names. The original name of the font
is no longer reserved by default.

Thanks to all of you who have helped us refine this license and make it even
easier to use and understand.

Victor Gaultney & Nicolas Spalinger

Source: http://openlists.sil.org/archives/ofl-discuss/2007-February/000160.html

The OFL is a free and open-source license specifically designed for the licensing of fonts.

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8Jan/070

The OLPC and Greek

(oh, I am writing this through a lousy Net connection; thanks Engelados)

I tried out the latest OLPC image, specifically build 218, on Qemu and my aim was to get Greek support configured, if it was not there already.

The OLPC does not currently come with a good set of Greek fonts; you will need to install a set of fonts such as DejaVu or GFS Didot.
Installing means adding the font files in the directory /usr/share/fonts/. The current font configuration files in the OLPC favour Bitstream Vera, therefore you would need to move the bitstream subdirectory outside the fonts directory. DejaVu is based on Bitstream Vera and therefore you will not notice any change once you upgrade. Also, Fedora Core 6 and Ubuntu Linux are based on DejaVu. You need DejaVu, as Bitstream Vera does not currently support Greek. Both DejaVu and GFS Didot are free and open-source fonts.

Note: This screenshot shows DejaVu Sans, not GFS Didot. Sorry for the typo.
This is the OLPC running the cut-down version of the Abiword wordprocessor. Click on the image to view the full size.

This is the OLPC showing the same document above with GFS Didot. The font looks quite nice and similar to old greek textbooks. There is a small issue however, it does not have the character coverage of DejaVu. For example, notice that the Euro sign is missing from GFS Didot. Also, other glyphs such as fancy bullet characters are missing as well. Normally, the OLPC software should replace those missing characters with the correct characters from another font. Apparently something is wrong here and needs further investigation.

Writing support for the Greek language has to be configured separately in the OLPC. The case with other languages appears to be that the default layout is that of the language; apparently there is no need to switch between Brazilian Portuguese and English. For the Greek language it appears that it is good to be able to switch between Greek and English.

There are several places that you can add Greek writing support. The most common is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Having gone through the configuration files, I think that /etc/X11/Xkbmap is also a good place and saves us from touching the core Xorg configuration file.

To write the full set of Greek letters, one needs to set the extended variant for the Greek layout, and also try to set the Compose key (for ano teleia). These things should be simplified...

I am not sure how the OLPC looks like (the only photos I saw where not focusing on the keyboard). Perhaps it would be useful to have a test machine at my disposal (hint, hint).
Jim Gettys wrote at his blog about the different languages that the first generation of the OLPC should support. Both Kinyarwanda and Kiswahili use the latin alphabet, therefore there are no significant issues with font support or writing support.

p.s.
Greece will carry out a pilot with OLPC laptops next September.

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6Jul/06Off

Multimedia support in Ubuntu Linux 6.06

With Ubuntu Linux 6.06, it is much clear how to install those codecs in order to get broad multimedia file support.

In Ubuntu, the multimedia infrastructure is handled by GStreamer; you install GStreamer plugins and any application that uses GStreamer can immediately benefit from the new codec support.

A typical installation of Ubuntu will bring in the free and open-source codecs by default. This includes the base gstreamer plugins package, gstreamer0.10-plugins-base that covers

  1. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstadder.so
  2. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstaudioconvert.so
  3. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstaudiorate.so
  4. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstaudioresample.so
  5. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstaudiotestsrc.so
  6. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstcdparanoia.so
  7. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstdecodebin.so
  8. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstffmpegcolorspace.so
  9. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstogg.so
  10. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstplaybin.so
  11. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstsubparse.so
  12. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgsttcp.so
  13. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgsttheora.so
  14. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgsttypefindfunctions.so
  15. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstvideo4linux.so
  16. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstvideorate.so
  17. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstvideoscale.so
  18. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstvideotestsrc.so
  19. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstvolume.so
  20. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstvorbis.so

With a properly encoded multimedia file, you can play music or video with subtitles. Such good codecs are Ogg, Vorbis and Theora. You can also rip CDs; cdparanoia is also there.
By default you also get the good package, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
It contains

  1. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgst1394.so
  2. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstaasink.so
  3. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstalaw.so
  4. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstalpha.so
  5. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstapetag.so
  6. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstavi.so
  7. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstautodetect.so
  8. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstcacasink.so
  9. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstcdio.so
  10. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgsteffectv.so
  11. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstgoom.so
  12. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstid3demux.so
  13. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstlevel.so
  14. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstefence.so
  15. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstmulaw.so
  16. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstossaudio.so
  17. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstrtp.so
  18. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstrtsp.so
  19. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstsmpte.so
  20. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgsttaglib.so
  21. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstudp.so
  22. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstvideobox.so
  23. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstvideoflip.so
  24. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstwavenc.so
  25. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstwavparse.so
  26. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstauparse.so
  27. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstdebug.so
  28. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstnavigationtest.so
  29. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstalphacolor.so
  30. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstcairo.so
  31. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstflxdec.so
  32. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstmatroska.so
  33. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstvideomixer.so
  34. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstcutter.so
  35. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstmultipart.so
  36. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstflac.so
  37. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstjpeg.so
  38. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstpng.so
  39. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstspeex.so
  40. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstgconfelements.so
  41. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstshout2.so
  42. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstvideobalance.so
  43. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgsticydemux.so
  44. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstximagesrc.so
  45. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstannodex.so
  46. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstgdkpixbuf.so
  47. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgsthalelements.so
  48. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstdv.so

This includes generic AVI support, access to digital video and Firewire devices, visualisers, the Matroska codec, access to shoutcast servers, the speex audio codec, the flac codec and many more.

At this point, you can install Pitivi, a gstreamer-enabled video editor written in Python that helps you create your own movie. Make sure you install gstreamer0.10-gnonlin which enables non-linear editing in gstreamer.

Up to here you got free and open-source software.

You can continue with more codecs by installing the package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly. This package is not part of the official Ubuntu distribution; you need to enable the Universe repository. Use System/Administration/Synaptic Package Manager to install these additional packages.
Ugly are the plugins and codecs that may have distribution problems in some countries.

Ugly includes

  1. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgsta52dec.so
  2. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstasf.so
  3. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstdvdlpcmdec.so
  4. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstdvdread.so
  5. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstdvdsub.so
  6. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstiec958.so
  7. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstmad.so
  8. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstmpeg2dec.so
  9. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstmpegaudioparse.so
  10. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstmpegstream.so
  11. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstrmdemux.so
  12. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstsid.so

This package will bring in, among others, DVD playback and subtitle support, ASF file support, MP3 support (MAD package) and MPEG2 video playback.
You can also get MP3 support if you install the gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 plugin which is available from Universe as well. This package is probably free to use in any country thanks to the efforts of the Fluendo team.

It appears that if you install ugly, it is good to install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg so that you get support for

FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer

This GStreamer plugin supports a large number of audio and video compression
formats through the use of the FFmpeg library. The plugin contains GStreamer
elements for encoding 40+ formats (MPEG, DivX, MPEG4, AC3, DV, ...), decoding
90+ formats (AVI, MPEG, OGG, Matroska, ASF, ...), demuxing 30+ formats, and
colorspace conversion.

Finally, there is a package gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad with plugins of potentially suboptimal quality. It includes

  1. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstbz2.so
  2. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstcdxaparse.so
  3. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstdtsdec.so
  4. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstfreeze.so
  5. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstgsm.so
  6. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstmms.so
  7. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstmodplug.so
  8. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstmusepack.so
  9. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstqtdemux.so
  10. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgsttrm.so
  11. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstspeed.so
  12. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstswfdec.so
  13. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgsttta.so
  14. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstvideo4linux2.so
  15. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstwavpack.so
  16. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstxingheader.so
  17. /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstneonhttpsrc.so

With bad you get GSM audio codec support, MMS support, QT playback support for some formats, Flash (SWF) playing support, Video4Linux2 support, MUSEPACK support and a few more.

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15May/060

Free Alaa!

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Alaa is a young prominent Egyptian blogger that was arrested and jailed among 47 activists on 7th May 2006 during a peaceful demonstration in Cairo.
His personal website and blog, shared with his wife Manal, is http://www.manalaa.net/ has the latest news about his condition.

There is a petition by Hands Across the Mideast Support Alliance (HAMSA) to free Alaa, which I copy:

Demand Egyptian Regime Release Alaa from Tora Prison

Alaa Abd El-Fatah is one of Egypt's most prominent bloggers and free speech advocates. He and his wife Manal run the popular blog BitBucket, which collects posts from dozens of Egyptian blogs and which won a "Best of the Blogs" award in December from Reporters Without Borders.

On Saturday (May 7), Alaa was arrested with a group of activists during a peaceful demonstration outside a Cairo courthouse. The rally denounced disciplinary hearings for two reform judges and arrests of protestors at previous demonstrations. Alaa and a group of other demonstrators were cornered by Egyptian police, and security agents then apparently handpicked individual protestors for arrest.

Alaa seems to have been targeted because of his high profile: he helps organizes the protests and spread the information through the blog aggregator he runs. He is now being held in notorious Tora Prison — and his arrest seems designed to both shut down his blog aggregator and scare other Egyptian bloggers. But you can send a message to the Egyptian government through the petition below (you can edit the petition text), which will generate an email to political leaders who can secure Alaa's release.

The petition will be sent to:

  • Egypt's Ambassador to the US Nabil Fahmy
  • Egyptian Prime Minister Ahmed Nazif
  • Egypt's Interior Minister Habib El Adly
  • US Ambassador to Egypt Francis Ricciardone
  • US Assistant Secretary of State David Welch

This campaign has been signed 1047[check page for latest figure] times. Click here to see who's signed.

Join the Campaign

Alaa is speaking (has the mic) at an event about Open-Source software for NGOs in Africa.

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27Mar/061

Εξελληνισμός του OLPC

Από το γράμμα του κ. Καρούνου για την ελληνική έκδοση του OLPC, θα γίνει μια ομιλία σήμερα Δευτέρα, 27 Μαρτίου 2006, στις 19:30, στο Ινστιτούτο Γκαίτε (Ομήρου 14-16), από το Μιχάλη Βλέτσα (Chief Connectivity Officer του OLPC) για την εξέλιξη του έργου. Είναι σημαντικό να πάνε άτομα και να ενημερώσουν από την πλευρά τους.

Σχετικά με τα θέματα εξελληνισμού, έχουμε

  • υπάρχει ζήτημα με τις γραμματοσειρές στη διανομή Fedora, μιας και δεν υπάρχει γραμματοσειρά με καλή υποστήριξη ελ ηνικών. Προτείνουμε τη DejaVu.
  • για τη γραφή ελληνικών το θέμα είναι σε καλό επίπεδο. Θέλουμε να είναι ρυθμισμένο με την παροχή του OLPC η γραφή αγγλικών/ελληνικών με ενεργοποιημένο το συνδυασμό Alt-Shift για την εναλλαγή μεταξύ των διατάξεων.
  • GNOME και KDE είναι εξελληνισμένα - ποιο θα επιλεγεί;

Οι Νίκος Χαρωνιτάκης και Δημήτρης Μιχελινάκης έχουν μεταφράσει σε καλό βαθμό τις εφαρμογές που είναι ειδικές στη διανομή Fedora.

Πάντως, το αντικείμενο του κ. Βλέτσα είναι οι ασύρματες επικοινωνίες, που πιστεύω ότι έχουν το ίδιο ενδιαφέρον με τον εξελληνισμό. Ερωτήματα για ασύρματες επικοινωνίες

  • θα γίνει χρήση του chipset atheros;
  • θα γίνει χρήση του οδηγού madwifi ή της ελεύθερης έκδοσης;
  • υπάρχουν βελτιστοποιήσεις για την κεραία - ποια θα είναι η εμβέλεια;
  • χρήση του OLPC για σύνδεση στα ασύρματα μητροπολιτικά δίκτυα της Ελλάδας;

 Ενημέρωση (28Μαρ06):

Θα γίνει χρήση chipset ασύρματου δικτύου της Marvell και συγκεκριμένα η έκδοση USB του Marvell 88w8388. Το chipset αυτό έχει αρκετές από λειτουργίες ενσωματωμένες, με αποτέλεσμα να καταναλώνει το σύστημα λιγότερη ενέργεια. Για παράδειγμα, ο φορητός θα είναι σε θέση να αποτελεί μέρος σε δίκτυο mesh όταν και η CPU είναι εκτός τροφοδοσίας.

Άλλα τεχνικά στοιχεία υπάρχουν στο Wiki του έργου OLPC.

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11Mar/060

Greek Polytonic HOWTO

Dimitri Marinakis has written a HOWTO on Hellenic (Greek) Polytonic in free and open-source software, licensed by the GNU Free Documentation License.
It gives a background in Ancient Greek and describes how to use Greek Polytonic (read and write) in your Linux system.

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27Jul/050

Hey, what language is this page in?

This Website is predominantly in Greek. Have a look at the home page for some information in English, and also info on how to contact me.

This Website is a blog, or online diary, on issues relating to information security, open-source and free software, software internationalisation (making software support many spoken languages), software localisation (translation of software to other spoken languages), photography, traveling and more!

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15Jun/05Off

Εξελληνισμός του OpenOffice.org 2.0

Είναι σημαντικό να γίνει ο εξελληνισμός του OpenOffice.org 2.0.

Το OpenOffice.org είναι από τα σημαντικότερα πακέτα ελεύθερου λογισμικού. Αποτελεί σουΐτα εφαρμογών γραφείου διαθέσιμο τουλάχιστον σε Linux και Windοws και είναι βασικό λογισμικό για τελικούς χρήστες και μικρο-μεσαίες επιχειρήσεις.

Η έκδοση 2.0 έχει πολλές βελτιώσεις στην υπάρχουσα 1.0 όπως υποστήριξη του προτύπου OpenDocument για την αποθήκευση αρχείων, καλύτερη ανάγνωση αρχείων .doc και σημαντική βελτίωση της γραφικής διασύνδεσης χρήστη.

Ο Κώστας Παπαδήμας αναλαμβάνει τη διαχείριση της προσπάθειας και χρειάζεται άτομα για να βοηθήσουν στην ολοκλήρωση του εξελληνισμού. Το όλο έργο δεν είναι πολύ μεγάλο, πρέπει όμως να συμμετάσχουν άτομα για να μοιράσουν την δουλειά.

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7Jun/05Off

Μια ακόμα γλώσσα για το OOo

Το OpenOffice.org (ΟΟο) μιλά ακόμα μια γλώσσα, την Gaelic (την μιλούν στην Σκωτία).

Είναι σημαντικό να ειπωθεί ότι η δουλειά αυτή της μετάφρασης του λογισμικού έγινε με δαπάνη από το Scottish Executive (έτσι ονομάζεται η κυβέρνηση της Σκωτίας), και ειδικά από το εκπαιδευτικό του στέλεχος, το Learning and Teaching Scotland.

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16May/05Off

Διάθεση 4 νέων ελληνικών γραμματοσειρών ως ανοιχτό λογισμικό (ενημερώθηκε)

Με πρόλαβε ο Αστέρης στην ανακοίνωση των γραμματοσειρών MgOpen α λα ιστολόγιο :) .

Τέσσερις λοιπόν γραμματοσειρές, MgOpen Canonica, MgOpen Cosmetica, MgOpen Modata και MgOpen Moderna γίνονται διαθέσιμες με άδεια συμβατή με το ανοιχτό λογισμικό. Δείτε δείγματα αρχείο PDF, αρχείο ODT (OpenOffice.org 2.0/OpenDocument).

Η πρωταρχική σελίδα με τις γραμματοσειρές είναι http://www.ellak.gr/fonts/mgopen/ και κάθε ανανέωση θα γίνεται γνωστή εκεί. Οι έμπειροι χρήστες καθώς και οι χρήστες που θέλουν να εισάγουν τις γραμματοσειρές σε μια διανομή καλό είναι να αναφέρονται στην διεύθυνση http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/ttf-mgopen διότι εδώ υπάρχουν και πληροφορίες "hinting".

Αξίζουν συγχαρητήρια στην εταιρία ΜΑΤΖΕΝΤΑ ΕΠΕ για την αρχική διάθεση των γραμματοσειρών. Νομίζω ότι αν θέλετε να ευχαριστήσετε την εταιρία, μπορείτε να το κάνετε εδώ. Από την αρχική διάθεση μέχρι σήμερα αρκετά άτομα εργάστηκαν, και συγκεκριμένες ευχαριστίες μπορείτε να δείτε στο τμήμα Ιστορία στη σελίδα των γραμματοσειρών MgOpen καθώς και στην ανακοίνωση του Ζήνωνα.

Οι γραμματοσειρές θα αποκτήσουν μεγαλύτερη αξία αν γίνουν διαθέσιμες από τις ίδιες τις διανομές και να μην χρειάζεται ο τελικός χρήστης να τις εγκαθιστά χειρωνακτικά. Το πρώτο βήμα το έκανε ο Κώστας Μ. για τη διανομή Debian. Αν σας έχει προσφέρει κάτι η διανομή σας, κάντε τις ενέργειες για να συμπεριλάβει τις γραμματοσειρές MgOpen!

Ενημέρωση:
Μόλις καταχωρήθηκαν οι MgOpen στο fontguide του Ed Trager:
Screenshot showing all four MgOpen fonts

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18May/04Off

Ο Linus δεν είναι ο πατέρας του Linux

σύμφωνα με γνωστή εταιρία που δημοσιεύει έρευνες σε σκοτεινές κατευθύνσεις.

Δείτε Σλας Ντοτ και Γκροκ Λο σήμερα για περισσότερα.

Η εν λόγω εταιρία διατηρεί φανερές σχέσεις με τη Μαϊκροσοφτ (λέγε funding).

Γράμμα στάλθηκε στην εν λόγω εταιρία (ελαφρώς τροποποιημένο):

Hi,
I'ld like to add the following study ideas to your TODO list.
I would be really interested to see you working on them.
a. Mιcrosoft dίrty strategies to undermine the open-source movement.
b. Comprehensive list of Mιcrosoft methods to fund "independent"
research publications that rubbishes the open-source movement.
c. How independent are research firms nowdays.

I hope to hear from your soon,
xxxxx

Απάντηση λήφθηκε από την εν λόγω εταιρία (αφαίρεση ονομάτων):

thanks, but we're mainly interested in substance, not who's funding
whom.  if someone is right, it doesn't matter who's funding them,
they're right;  and if they're wrong, it still doesn't matter to
me who's funding them -- what matters is, they're wrong, and my
job is to show how they're wrong.   

i'm sure you'll be able to get funding for studying this study
without tocqueville's help.  there are a number of large corporations
(IBM, Intel, HP, and others) giving out 9-figure donations for
the apparent purpose of helping them defeat the competition.
have you tried one of them? 

cheers, xxxxxxx

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